diff --git a/deltachat-ffi/deltachat.h b/deltachat-ffi/deltachat.h
index af0d3142b..a520e3c13 100644
--- a/deltachat-ffi/deltachat.h
+++ b/deltachat-ffi/deltachat.h
@@ -4615,7 +4615,8 @@ void dc_event_unref(dc_event_t* event);
  * Messages were marked noticed or seen.
  * The ui may update badge counters or stop showing a chatlist-item with a bold font.
  *
- * This event is emitted eg. when calling dc_markseen_msgs(), dc_marknoticed_chat() or dc_marknoticed_contact().
+ * This event is emitted eg. when calling dc_markseen_msgs(), dc_marknoticed_chat() or dc_marknoticed_contact()
+ * or when a chat is answered on another device.
  * Do not try to derive the state of an item from just the fact you received the event;
  * use eg. dc_msg_get_state() or dc_get_fresh_msg_cnt() for this purpose.
  *
diff --git a/src/chat.rs b/src/chat.rs
index 43b40286b..42f5e585b 100644
--- a/src/chat.rs
+++ b/src/chat.rs
@@ -1687,12 +1687,34 @@ pub async fn get_chat_msgs(
     }
 }
 
+pub(crate) async fn marknoticed_chat_if_older_than(
+    context: &Context,
+    chat_id: ChatId,
+    timestamp: i64,
+) -> Result<(), Error> {
+    if let Some(chat_timestamp) = context
+        .sql
+        .query_get_value(
+            context,
+            "SELECT MAX(timestamp) FROM msgs WHERE chat_id=?",
+            paramsv![chat_id],
+        )
+        .await
+    {
+        if timestamp > chat_timestamp {
+            marknoticed_chat(context, chat_id).await?;
+        }
+    }
+    Ok(())
+}
+
 pub async fn marknoticed_chat(context: &Context, chat_id: ChatId) -> Result<(), Error> {
+    // "WHERE" below uses the index `(state, hidden, chat_id)`, see get_fresh_msg_cnt() for reasoning
     if !context
         .sql
         .exists(
-            "SELECT id FROM msgs  WHERE chat_id=? AND state=?;",
-            paramsv![chat_id, MessageState::InFresh],
+            "SELECT id FROM msgs WHERE state=? AND hidden=0 AND chat_id=?;",
+            paramsv![MessageState::InFresh, chat_id],
         )
         .await?
     {
@@ -1703,10 +1725,11 @@ pub async fn marknoticed_chat(context: &Context, chat_id: ChatId) -> Result<(),
         .sql
         .execute(
             "UPDATE msgs
-            SET state=13
-          WHERE chat_id=?
-            AND state=10;",
-            paramsv![chat_id],
+            SET state=?
+          WHERE state=?
+            AND hidden=0
+            AND chat_id=?;",
+            paramsv![MessageState::InNoticed, MessageState::InFresh, chat_id],
         )
         .await?;
 
diff --git a/src/dc_receive_imf.rs b/src/dc_receive_imf.rs
index d71954055..fc092bf39 100644
--- a/src/dc_receive_imf.rs
+++ b/src/dc_receive_imf.rs
@@ -868,6 +868,11 @@ async fn add_parts(
         "Message has {} parts and is assigned to chat #{}.", icnt, chat_id,
     );
 
+    // new outgoing message from another device marks the chat as noticed.
+    if !incoming && !*hidden && !chat_id.is_special() {
+        chat::marknoticed_chat_if_older_than(context, chat_id, sort_timestamp).await?;
+    }
+
     // check event to send
     if chat_id.is_trash() || *hidden {
         *create_event_to_send = None;
diff --git a/src/sql.rs b/src/sql.rs
index 8a3f47b9a..98fc7d21e 100644
--- a/src/sql.rs
+++ b/src/sql.rs
@@ -1360,7 +1360,7 @@ CREATE INDEX devmsglabels_index1 ON devmsglabels (label);
         }
         if dbversion < 68 {
             info!(context, "[migration] v68");
-            // the index is used to speed up get_fresh_msg_cnt(), see comment there for more details
+            // the index is used to speed up get_fresh_msg_cnt() (see comment there for more details) and marknoticed_chat()
             sql.execute(
                 "CREATE INDEX IF NOT EXISTS msgs_index7 ON msgs (state, hidden, chat_id);",
                 paramsv![],