diff --git a/src/dc_receive_imf.rs b/src/dc_receive_imf.rs
index 6d7ffa78b..3dca2329a 100644
--- a/src/dc_receive_imf.rs
+++ b/src/dc_receive_imf.rs
@@ -17,7 +17,7 @@ use crate::message::{self, MessageState, MessengerMessage, MsgId};
 use crate::mimeparser::*;
 use crate::param::*;
 use crate::peerstate::*;
-use crate::securejoin::{self, handle_securejoin_handshake};
+use crate::securejoin::{self, handle_securejoin_handshake, observe_securejoin_on_other_device};
 use crate::sql;
 use crate::stock::StockMessage;
 use crate::{contact, location};
@@ -340,11 +340,9 @@ fn add_parts(
         };
         to_id = DC_CONTACT_ID_SELF;
 
-        // handshake messages must be processed _before_ chats are created
-        // (eg. contacs may be marked as verified)
+        // handshake may mark contacts as verified and must be processed before chats are created
         if mime_parser.get(HeaderDef::SecureJoin).is_some() {
-            // avoid discarding by show_emails setting
-            msgrmsg = MessengerMessage::Yes;
+            msgrmsg = MessengerMessage::Yes; // avoid discarding by show_emails setting
             *chat_id = ChatId::new(0);
             allow_creation = true;
             match handle_securejoin_handshake(context, mime_parser, from_id) {
@@ -358,8 +356,7 @@ fn add_parts(
                     state = MessageState::InSeen;
                 }
                 Ok(securejoin::HandshakeMessage::Propagate) => {
-                    // Message will still be processed as "member
-                    // added" or similar system message.
+                    // process messages as "member added" normally
                 }
                 Err(err) => {
                     *hidden = true;
@@ -476,6 +473,27 @@ fn add_parts(
         // We cannot recreate other states (read, error).
         state = MessageState::OutDelivered;
         to_id = to_ids.get_index(0).cloned().unwrap_or_default();
+
+        // handshake may mark contacts as verified and must be processed before chats are created
+        if mime_parser.get(HeaderDef::SecureJoin).is_some() {
+            msgrmsg = MessengerMessage::Yes; // avoid discarding by show_emails setting
+            *chat_id = ChatId::new(0);
+            allow_creation = true;
+            match observe_securejoin_on_other_device(context, mime_parser, to_id) {
+                Ok(securejoin::HandshakeMessage::Done)
+                | Ok(securejoin::HandshakeMessage::Ignore) => {
+                    *hidden = true;
+                }
+                Ok(securejoin::HandshakeMessage::Propagate) => {
+                    // process messages as "member added" normally
+                }
+                Err(err) => {
+                    *hidden = true;
+                    error!(context, "Error in Secure-Join watching: {}", err);
+                }
+            }
+        }
+
         if !to_ids.is_empty() {
             if chat_id.is_unset() {
                 let (new_chat_id, new_chat_id_blocked) = create_or_lookup_group(
diff --git a/src/securejoin.rs b/src/securejoin.rs
index 28a8f0f7f..d6fce24a7 100644
--- a/src/securejoin.rs
+++ b/src/securejoin.rs
@@ -770,6 +770,38 @@ pub(crate) fn handle_securejoin_handshake(
     }
 }
 
+/// observe_securejoin_on_other_device() must be called when a self-sent securejoin message is seen.
+/// currently, the message is only ignored, in the future,
+/// we may mark peers as verified accross devices:
+///
+/// in a multi-device-setup, there may be other devices that "see" the handshake messages.
+/// if the seen messages seen are self-sent messages encrypted+signed correctly with our key,
+/// we can make some conclusions of it:
+///
+/// - if we see the self-sent-message vg-member-added/vc-contact-confirm,
+///   we know that we're an inviter-observer.
+///   the inviting device has marked a peer as verified on vg-request-with-auth/vc-request-with-auth
+///   before sending vg-member-added/vc-contact-confirm - so, if we observe vg-member-added/vc-contact-confirm,
+///   we can mark the peer as verified as well.
+///
+/// - if we see the self-sent-message vg-member-added-received
+///   we know that we're an joiner-observer.
+///   the joining device has marked the peer as verified on vg-member-added/vc-contact-confirm
+///   before sending vg-member-added-received - so, if we observe vg-member-added-received,
+///   we can mark the peer as verified as well.
+///
+/// to make this work, (a) some messages must not be deleted,
+/// (b) we need a vc-contact-confirm-received message if bcc_self is set,
+/// (c) we should make sure, we do not only rely on the unencrypted To:-header for identifying the peer
+/// (in handle_securejoin_handshake() we have the oob information for that)
+pub(crate) fn observe_securejoin_on_other_device(
+    _context: &Context,
+    _mime_message: &MimeMessage,
+    _contact_id: u32,
+) -> Result<HandshakeMessage, HandshakeError> {
+    Ok(HandshakeMessage::Ignore)
+}
+
 fn secure_connection_established(context: &Context, contact_chat_id: ChatId) {
     let contact_id: u32 = chat_id_2_contact_id(context, contact_chat_id);
     let contact = Contact::get_by_id(context, contact_id);